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collegeThis has been causing a stir online, as it should.

While a majority of the public (55%) continues to say that colleges and universities have a positive effect on the way things are going in the country these days, Republicans express increasingly negative views.
A majority of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents (58%) now say that colleges and universities have a negative effect on the country, up from 45% last year. By contrast, most Democrats and Democratic leaners (72%) say colleges and universities have a positive effect, which is little changed from recent years.
(Pew Research)

That’s quite a swing. Some of it may have to do with Republicans who went to college now being unwilling to identify themselves as such, or even as “Republican-leaning,” due to entirely legitimate embarrassment, even shame, over being connected in any way with the pitiful, disastrous buffoon currently in the White House. (Though most will unfortunately continue to vote Republican, unless things get really awful.) Response bias is real, though its significance varies.

As for most of it, though, how much is because colleges purportedly “indoctrinate” atheism, feminism, socialism, and so on? And how much because they believe those who went to the fancy colleges are getting all the money? Especially when the college guy boss down at work is always full of sincere, regretful reasons why, though you’re a good worker and they really like you, they’ve only been able to come up with a total of $0.60/hr in raises, total, for the last four years?
I don’t claim to know the answer to that.
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trump14Though I’m not with the author on the schadenfreude, this is on the whole one of the best things I’ve seen so far on Pr*sident Trump’s budget proposal. Lots of informative links.

Donald Trump’s proposed 2018 budget will cut funding for programs that predominantly helps older Americans such as the anti-hunger program Meals on Wheels. Older (white) voters were key to Trump’s presidential victory.
The president’s proposed 2018 budget will severely harm rural communities. For example, while Trump was lying about helping coal miners and bringing back that dying industry, “his proposed budget will slash funds for the Appalachian Regional Commission, a federal-state agency founded in 1965 to promote economic development and infrastructure in some of the poorest parts of the United States,”as The New York Times has reported. These rural voters in red-state America were among Trump’s strongest supporters…
In total, Trump’s 2018 budget proposes hundreds of billions of dollars in cutbacks. As part of that plan, Trump and the Republican Party will take monies from the poor and other vulnerable populations and give them to the rich, the already bloated military and big corporations. During the 2016 presidential campaign, Trump promised his supporters he would “drain the swamp,” which was understood to mean driving lobbyists and special interests out of Washington. Instead, he is overflowing those fetid waters with financial payoffs for Wall Street and other gangster capitalists at the expense of the American people.

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trump4I guess that a lot of people aren’t really given to thinking things through. Not when it comes to how/whether they vote, anyway.

Over in Illinois, the New York Times looks at a different community, one that’s now stupefied after the arrest and detention of an undocumented immigrant who for a decade has been one of the best and most-liked damn people in the town. And now a bunch of not-racists who backed Trump’s notions of rounding up millions of people by an overwhelming margin—because they were going to get the coal mines back in return, so screw all those millions—are all twitchy because they don’t want this “good man” and “role model” included.
(Daily Kos)


Why would anyone vote for Donald Trump?

by Dan Burns on November 6, 2016 · 2 comments

trump6I’ve seen that question posed a lot, especially after it became clear that the race wouldn’t automatically be a 40-point blowout.
A great many Trump supporters are not like the lads in the picture. In fact, for the most part you’d have no idea that they’re right-wingnuts, based on ordinary interaction. They’re competent, and often considerably better than just “competent,” as parents, as spouses, at their jobs, and at being contributing members of the community. So you can’t just label them as a group as hopeless idiots, even though that is certainly what they’re being when they vote.
There is no simple, comprehensive answer. It’s all about the ultimate bane of human existence, motivated reasoning (I’m no longer just talking about right-wingers; I’m still a motivated reasoner, myself, far too often), and like everything about human psychology it’s messy and complicated, and when it’s not right (that is, produces bad real-world results, like wars) it’s not easy to fix. If there was a way to get people in general consistently away from motivated reasoning and consistently into rational, scientific thinking, the world would be a lot better place. (Yes, with the latter there is still plenty of room for emotion and desire and dreams and all that. I’m not talking about trying to turn Earth into Vulcan, here.) But, obviously, no one has yet devised such a way.

Image: Boston Globe
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Trump and Trump voters in a nutshell

by Dan Burns on September 26, 2016 · 0 comments

I saw this here, which is one of the places that Tom Tomorrow’s genius is featured on a weekly basis.

My posting this is not actually meant as a blanket condemnation of Trump voters, most of whom are not fundamentally really malicious people (unlike their candidate), but rather are socio-politically ignorant and confused and gullible and don’t know any better. They were raised that way, and never given the intellectual tools to help get beyond that. Which is sad, but that’s the reality we have to deal with.